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		By: Arsene Hodali		</title>
		<link>https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5679</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5655&quot;&gt;Inflatable_Twerp&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, I should be thanking you. This is one of the best comments I&#039;ve ever seen. So glad the post did justice to what I was trying to put across, and again... wow, thank YOU.]]></description>
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<p>Wow, I should be thanking you. This is one of the best comments I&#8217;ve ever seen. So glad the post did justice to what I was trying to put across, and again&#8230; wow, thank YOU.</p>
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		By: Inflatable_Twerp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So I took the time to read this. I was going to keep stumbling, but I figured that&#039;s exactly what this article is crying out for us not to do, so I clicked back a couple times and read the whole thing. I have to say, being a young adult in the age of iPhones, instant downloads &#038; Facebook, you got it spot on. 

People see pieces of work such as movies or music and they just don&#039;t make the connection between that and the years of gruelling labour and actual WORK that goes into it. They expect to be able to sit at a keyboard and upload their ideas without any effort whatsoever. We&#039;re shown images of these sub-human geniuses, and we assume that the things they produced were like second-nature to them and hardly ever consider that even a genius needs to sit down and make an effort before anything starts to show.

We&#039;re a generation that needs instant gratification, else it&#039;s not worth the time and effort, and it&#039;s completely the wrong attitude to be teaching ourselves. After all, we&#039;re going to be here for a good seventy - eighty years if we&#039;re lucky, so there&#039;s no rush.

Anyway, thanks for writing this article. I may put a bit more patience into what I&#039;m doing from now on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I took the time to read this. I was going to keep stumbling, but I figured that&#8217;s exactly what this article is crying out for us not to do, so I clicked back a couple times and read the whole thing. I have to say, being a young adult in the age of iPhones, instant downloads &amp; Facebook, you got it spot on. </p>
<p>People see pieces of work such as movies or music and they just don&#8217;t make the connection between that and the years of gruelling labour and actual WORK that goes into it. They expect to be able to sit at a keyboard and upload their ideas without any effort whatsoever. We&#8217;re shown images of these sub-human geniuses, and we assume that the things they produced were like second-nature to them and hardly ever consider that even a genius needs to sit down and make an effort before anything starts to show.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re a generation that needs instant gratification, else it&#8217;s not worth the time and effort, and it&#8217;s completely the wrong attitude to be teaching ourselves. After all, we&#8217;re going to be here for a good seventy &#8211; eighty years if we&#8217;re lucky, so there&#8217;s no rush.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for writing this article. I may put a bit more patience into what I&#8217;m doing from now on.</p>
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		By: Arsene Hodali		</title>
		<link>https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-7&quot;&gt;em&lt;/a&gt;.

lol Yahh, let&#039;s not jump into the whole industrialization topic, at least not now. My post, and hopefully, this blog&#039;s goal is to be one of those few blogs that people turn to for &quot;correct&quot; information, from all sides of the argument. Hence, the part where I&#039;m absolutely thrilled with this short lived debate we just had. Basically, give dancePROOF the chance to be the blog that teaches you how to &quot;do it yourself&quot;.

As you just said 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Patience is a lost art.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But rarely few people, you excluded, understand that they&#039;ve lost it (or even had it). Just trying to open up their eyes that much more. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;At least if we can&#039;t escape the matrix, let us see it for what it is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And in your quest of using &quot;big corporations&quot; to &quot;your advantage&quot; realize that they can more than easily use you to their advantage, and much more subtler.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-7">em</a>.</p>
<p>lol Yahh, let&#8217;s not jump into the whole industrialization topic, at least not now. My post, and hopefully, this blog&#8217;s goal is to be one of those few blogs that people turn to for &#8220;correct&#8221; information, from all sides of the argument. Hence, the part where I&#8217;m absolutely thrilled with this short lived debate we just had. Basically, give dancePROOF the chance to be the blog that teaches you how to &#8220;do it yourself&#8221;.</p>
<p>As you just said </p>
<blockquote><p>Patience is a lost art.</p></blockquote>
<p>But rarely few people, you excluded, understand that they&#8217;ve lost it (or even had it). Just trying to open up their eyes that much more. </p>
<blockquote><p>At least if we can&#8217;t escape the matrix, let us see it for what it is.</p></blockquote>
<p>And in your quest of using &#8220;big corporations&#8221; to &#8220;your advantage&#8221; realize that they can more than easily use you to their advantage, and much more subtler.</p>
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		By: Arsene Hodali		</title>
		<link>https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5028</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5026&quot;&gt;em&lt;/a&gt;.

lol Yahh, let&#039;s not jump into the whole industrialization topic, at least not now. My post, and hopefully, this blog&#039;s goal is to be one of those few blogs that people turn to for &quot;correct&quot; information, from all sides of the argument. Hence, the part where I&#039;m absolutely thrilled with this short lived debate we just had. Basically, give dancePROOF the chance to be the blog that teaches you how to &quot;do it yourself&quot;.

As you just said 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Patience is a lost art.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But rarely few people, you excluded, understand that they&#039;ve lost it (or even had it). Just trying to open up their eyes that much more. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;At least if we can&#039;t escape the matrix, let us see it for what it is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And in your quest of using &quot;big corporations&quot; to &quot;your advantage&quot; realize that they can more than easily use you to their advantage, and much more subtler.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5026">em</a>.</p>
<p>lol Yahh, let&#8217;s not jump into the whole industrialization topic, at least not now. My post, and hopefully, this blog&#8217;s goal is to be one of those few blogs that people turn to for &#8220;correct&#8221; information, from all sides of the argument. Hence, the part where I&#8217;m absolutely thrilled with this short lived debate we just had. Basically, give dancePROOF the chance to be the blog that teaches you how to &#8220;do it yourself&#8221;.</p>
<p>As you just said </p>
<blockquote><p>Patience is a lost art.</p></blockquote>
<p>But rarely few people, you excluded, understand that they&#8217;ve lost it (or even had it). Just trying to open up their eyes that much more. </p>
<blockquote><p>At least if we can&#8217;t escape the matrix, let us see it for what it is.</p></blockquote>
<p>And in your quest of using &#8220;big corporations&#8221; to &#8220;your advantage&#8221; realize that they can more than easily use you to their advantage, and much more subtler.</p>
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		<link>https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[... parents are only someone you can learn from. wether their impact is positive or negative. we are always learning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; parents are only someone you can learn from. wether their impact is positive or negative. we are always learning.</p>
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		<link>https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5027</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[... parents are only someone you can learn from. wether their impact is positive or negative. we are always learning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; parents are only someone you can learn from. wether their impact is positive or negative. we are always learning.</p>
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		<link>https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That just delves into a whole history of industrialization. Where, basically the means of production have increased rapidly, due to new forms of communication. First it was in the form of books, then transformed to newspapers, then to internet ( bid jump but u get the idea). The means of communication has basically snowballed, thus explaining how science and technology had increased so rapidly in the past 3 years. 

Your completely correct, the solution is to do it yourself, but they will not simply fuck off. Unfortunately now, our whole culture depends on corporations. There is not one moment of your life that isn&#039;t &#039;branded&#039; (as my critical issues class would say, if only wednesdays were as interesting). The only solution is to use your knowledge to your advantage. Use the way&#039;s that this new speed in communication to sift through information that is relevant and interesting to you. 
 
For example, instead of reading about how your friends current status is, subscribe to a blog and read on a specific topic. 

Patience is a lost art. I, personally, can be patient about certain things ( my art, reading, web design, design, tenting, etc). Although a lot of the time, other areas of my life become unimportant and I therefore rush to get through them. Welcome to time management. There are consequences to this naturally, but I know what is important to me, and I use these &#039;big corporations&#039; and communication to my advantage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That just delves into a whole history of industrialization. Where, basically the means of production have increased rapidly, due to new forms of communication. First it was in the form of books, then transformed to newspapers, then to internet ( bid jump but u get the idea). The means of communication has basically snowballed, thus explaining how science and technology had increased so rapidly in the past 3 years. </p>
<p>Your completely correct, the solution is to do it yourself, but they will not simply fuck off. Unfortunately now, our whole culture depends on corporations. There is not one moment of your life that isn&#8217;t &#8216;branded&#8217; (as my critical issues class would say, if only wednesdays were as interesting). The only solution is to use your knowledge to your advantage. Use the way&#8217;s that this new speed in communication to sift through information that is relevant and interesting to you. </p>
<p>For example, instead of reading about how your friends current status is, subscribe to a blog and read on a specific topic. </p>
<p>Patience is a lost art. I, personally, can be patient about certain things ( my art, reading, web design, design, tenting, etc). Although a lot of the time, other areas of my life become unimportant and I therefore rush to get through them. Welcome to time management. There are consequences to this naturally, but I know what is important to me, and I use these &#8216;big corporations&#8217; and communication to my advantage.</p>
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		By: em		</title>
		<link>https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5026</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That just delves into a whole history of industrialization. Where, basically the means of production have increased rapidly, due to new forms of communication. First it was in the form of books, then transformed to newspapers, then to internet ( bid jump but u get the idea). The means of communication has basically snowballed, thus explaining how science and technology had increased so rapidly in the past 3 years. 

Your completely correct, the solution is to do it yourself, but they will not simply fuck off. Unfortunately now, our whole culture depends on corporations. There is not one moment of your life that isn&#039;t &#039;branded&#039; (as my critical issues class would say, if only wednesdays were as interesting). The only solution is to use your knowledge to your advantage. Use the way&#039;s that this new speed in communication to sift through information that is relevant and interesting to you. 
 
For example, instead of reading about how your friends current status is, subscribe to a blog and read on a specific topic. 

Patience is a lost art. I, personally, can be patient about certain things ( my art, reading, web design, design, tenting, etc). Although a lot of the time, other areas of my life become unimportant and I therefore rush to get through them. Welcome to time management. There are consequences to this naturally, but I know what is important to me, and I use these &#039;big corporations&#039; and communication to my advantage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That just delves into a whole history of industrialization. Where, basically the means of production have increased rapidly, due to new forms of communication. First it was in the form of books, then transformed to newspapers, then to internet ( bid jump but u get the idea). The means of communication has basically snowballed, thus explaining how science and technology had increased so rapidly in the past 3 years. </p>
<p>Your completely correct, the solution is to do it yourself, but they will not simply fuck off. Unfortunately now, our whole culture depends on corporations. There is not one moment of your life that isn&#8217;t &#8216;branded&#8217; (as my critical issues class would say, if only wednesdays were as interesting). The only solution is to use your knowledge to your advantage. Use the way&#8217;s that this new speed in communication to sift through information that is relevant and interesting to you. </p>
<p>For example, instead of reading about how your friends current status is, subscribe to a blog and read on a specific topic. </p>
<p>Patience is a lost art. I, personally, can be patient about certain things ( my art, reading, web design, design, tenting, etc). Although a lot of the time, other areas of my life become unimportant and I therefore rush to get through them. Welcome to time management. There are consequences to this naturally, but I know what is important to me, and I use these &#8216;big corporations&#8217; and communication to my advantage.</p>
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		By: Arsene Hodali		</title>
		<link>https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arsene Hodali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5&quot;&gt;em&lt;/a&gt;.

My view on the lack of patience was not to &quot;completely&quot; blame corporations. I wrote it as a post to show to people that (1) they are impatient, (2) it is not &quot;completely&quot; there fault.

I get how in my haste to deflect the blame off the &quot;people&quot; I ended up blaming the big corporations more than deserved. But blame me for thinking that a big corporation is not generally smarter and more informed than the average person, and thus (through all their research and data collection) able to realize that the average person, their consumer, is basically screwing themselves. Blame me for thinking that a corporation has a moral duty to, at the least, inform the people on how stupid/impatient they are getting and that in the long run this is not good for anyone at both ends.

I see the corporation as the &quot;parent&quot; and the regular consumer (us) as the &quot;child&quot;. Of course we children want candy &quot;media/tv/movies/etc&quot; as much as possible, but we, being kids, are not as informed as the parents to the dangers. So is it not therefor their responsibility to (1) limit the candy, (2) feed us vegetables (increase our patience) and (3) inform us of the consequences of our actions as &quot;parents&quot;?

But then this whole thing starts to make a big cycle all over again when one thinks of the fact that the main goal of a corporation is to make as much money as &quot;fast&quot; as possible which in turn makes THEM impatient with how they earn money. They generally tend to go for what earns more money. Thus, my disagreement is with the &quot;fast&quot; in their motto. Corporations are smart enough to realize that their &quot;let&#039;s give them what they want rather than what they need because it pays more faster&quot; approach is not sustainable and purely based in greed. Them realizing this, yet keeping the cycle alive, is the reason I say blame the big corporation.

Thus, through realizing that the corporations are going to look after their own interest of earning money, even at the expense of making the problem you had (impatience) larger, the only solution I see to you becoming patient is for you to, mildly speaking, fuck them and do it yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5">em</a>.</p>
<p>My view on the lack of patience was not to &#8220;completely&#8221; blame corporations. I wrote it as a post to show to people that (1) they are impatient, (2) it is not &#8220;completely&#8221; there fault.</p>
<p>I get how in my haste to deflect the blame off the &#8220;people&#8221; I ended up blaming the big corporations more than deserved. But blame me for thinking that a big corporation is not generally smarter and more informed than the average person, and thus (through all their research and data collection) able to realize that the average person, their consumer, is basically screwing themselves. Blame me for thinking that a corporation has a moral duty to, at the least, inform the people on how stupid/impatient they are getting and that in the long run this is not good for anyone at both ends.</p>
<p>I see the corporation as the &#8220;parent&#8221; and the regular consumer (us) as the &#8220;child&#8221;. Of course we children want candy &#8220;media/tv/movies/etc&#8221; as much as possible, but we, being kids, are not as informed as the parents to the dangers. So is it not therefor their responsibility to (1) limit the candy, (2) feed us vegetables (increase our patience) and (3) inform us of the consequences of our actions as &#8220;parents&#8221;?</p>
<p>But then this whole thing starts to make a big cycle all over again when one thinks of the fact that the main goal of a corporation is to make as much money as &#8220;fast&#8221; as possible which in turn makes THEM impatient with how they earn money. They generally tend to go for what earns more money. Thus, my disagreement is with the &#8220;fast&#8221; in their motto. Corporations are smart enough to realize that their &#8220;let&#8217;s give them what they want rather than what they need because it pays more faster&#8221; approach is not sustainable and purely based in greed. Them realizing this, yet keeping the cycle alive, is the reason I say blame the big corporation.</p>
<p>Thus, through realizing that the corporations are going to look after their own interest of earning money, even at the expense of making the problem you had (impatience) larger, the only solution I see to you becoming patient is for you to, mildly speaking, fuck them and do it yourself.</p>
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		By: Arsene Hodali		</title>
		<link>https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5025</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5024&quot;&gt;em&lt;/a&gt;.

My view on the lack of patience was not to &quot;completely&quot; blame corporations. I wrote it as a post to show to people that (1) they are impatient, (2) it is not &quot;completely&quot; there fault.

I get how in my haste to deflect the blame off the &quot;people&quot; I ended up blaming the big corporations more than deserved. But blame me for thinking that a big corporation is not generally smarter and more informed than the average person, and thus (through all their research and data collection) able to realize that the average person, their consumer, is basically screwing themselves. Blame me for thinking that a corporation has a moral duty to, at the least, inform the people on how stupid/impatient they are getting and that in the long run this is not good for anyone at both ends.

I see the corporation as the &quot;parent&quot; and the regular consumer (us) as the &quot;child&quot;. Of course we children want candy &quot;media/tv/movies/etc&quot; as much as possible, but we, being kids, are not as informed as the parents to the dangers. So is it not therefor their responsibility to (1) limit the candy, (2) feed us vegetables (increase our patience) and (3) inform us of the consequences of our actions as &quot;parents&quot;?

But then this whole thing starts to make a big cycle all over again when one thinks of the fact that the main goal of a corporation is to make as much money as &quot;fast&quot; as possible which in turn makes THEM impatient with how they earn money. They generally tend to go for what earns more money. Thus, my disagreement is with the &quot;fast&quot; in their motto. Corporations are smart enough to realize that their &quot;let&#039;s give them what they want rather than what they need because it pays more faster&quot; approach is not sustainable and purely based in greed. Them realizing this, yet keeping the cycle alive, is the reason I say blame the big corporation.

Thus, through realizing that the corporations are going to look after their own interest of earning money, even at the expense of making the problem you had (impatience) larger, the only solution I see to you becoming patient is for you to, mildly speaking, fuck them and do it yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://danceproof.com/patience-lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-5024">em</a>.</p>
<p>My view on the lack of patience was not to &#8220;completely&#8221; blame corporations. I wrote it as a post to show to people that (1) they are impatient, (2) it is not &#8220;completely&#8221; there fault.</p>
<p>I get how in my haste to deflect the blame off the &#8220;people&#8221; I ended up blaming the big corporations more than deserved. But blame me for thinking that a big corporation is not generally smarter and more informed than the average person, and thus (through all their research and data collection) able to realize that the average person, their consumer, is basically screwing themselves. Blame me for thinking that a corporation has a moral duty to, at the least, inform the people on how stupid/impatient they are getting and that in the long run this is not good for anyone at both ends.</p>
<p>I see the corporation as the &#8220;parent&#8221; and the regular consumer (us) as the &#8220;child&#8221;. Of course we children want candy &#8220;media/tv/movies/etc&#8221; as much as possible, but we, being kids, are not as informed as the parents to the dangers. So is it not therefor their responsibility to (1) limit the candy, (2) feed us vegetables (increase our patience) and (3) inform us of the consequences of our actions as &#8220;parents&#8221;?</p>
<p>But then this whole thing starts to make a big cycle all over again when one thinks of the fact that the main goal of a corporation is to make as much money as &#8220;fast&#8221; as possible which in turn makes THEM impatient with how they earn money. They generally tend to go for what earns more money. Thus, my disagreement is with the &#8220;fast&#8221; in their motto. Corporations are smart enough to realize that their &#8220;let&#8217;s give them what they want rather than what they need because it pays more faster&#8221; approach is not sustainable and purely based in greed. Them realizing this, yet keeping the cycle alive, is the reason I say blame the big corporation.</p>
<p>Thus, through realizing that the corporations are going to look after their own interest of earning money, even at the expense of making the problem you had (impatience) larger, the only solution I see to you becoming patient is for you to, mildly speaking, fuck them and do it yourself.</p>
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